Friday, October 22, 2004

Joe and St. Peter wrote a WebDAV-related IETF Internet-Draft recently. In fact, it combines two technologies I admire, WebDAV and XMPP, in a way that uses each technology precisely for what it's good for (WebDAV to store application data, XMPP to route application-specific messages).

I talked to a bunch of people at Educause about this yesterday, and they were excited about this and other new WebDAV features because many universities are betting on WebDAV. University of Memphis reports two services that people can't live without: email, and now WebDAV. Since WebDAV is such a flexible repository technology it's hard to tell a potential customer (like Memphis 2.5 years ago, when I worked at Xythos) what it will give them. But give it to users, and they will figure it out. Looks like the Atompub people are storing blog postings on a Web server, which students increasingly can do now via their WebDAV accounts [1]. And of course the universities are also keen on storing calendar data in WebDAV accounts. More application data in fewer server repositories means lower administration costs for these universities.

With all this increased excitement, you'd think I could get more people to show up at WebDAV Working Group meetings or contribute on the mailing list. The next meeting is in Washington DC, in the second week of November. Want to join in? It's easy -- all you have to do is... join in.



[1] I realize that although giving students WebDAV accounts is a little new, giving them Web accounts, or Web space in their Unix accounts, isn't new. However, in some colleges students had to request this service, or know enough Unix to be able to author the content. Plus raw HTTP doesn't support multi-user applications very well. WebDAV extends the usefulness and usability of personal Web space.

Friday, October 15, 2004

This is why I like cats.
I was trying to figure out if anybody was thinking of implementing CalDAV in Slide, so naturally I googled 'caldav slide'. No direct answers, but I did notice a LaughingMeme blog post from last spring that I'm sorry I missed, commenting on CalDAV. I agree with the gist of his caveats, and we're trying to address those, I think.
I can't vouch for the accuracy of this description of Canadian conversational styles (link via Julie), but it rings a bell -- whether because I'm Canadian, female or both, I don't know. Surprisingly, the "weaving" style can sometimes be seen as more aggressive, because it involves pushing conversational pieces into pauses. My American SO sometimes thinks I'm interrupting him. Well, I am interrupting if you assume there are rules about waiting until somebody is done speechifying even in one-on-one conversation, but the interjections are meant to build the conversation, not to be rude to him.

Tuesday, October 05, 2004

Recipe for Ginger ice cream -- sugar and no-sugar options

Ingredients:
  • 1 cup half and half cream
  • 1/4 cup grated fresh ginger root
  • 1 cup heavy whipping cream, whipped to soft peaks
  • 1 cup ginger ale or diet ginger ale
  • 1/2 to 3/4 cup sugar or Splenda
  • 1 T. lemon juice

Soak the grated ginger root in half and half cream. Put this and the ginger ale and whipping cream in the fridge to chill for an hour or so. Use a fine sieve to take the fresh ginger out of the cream. Stir the ginger-flavored cream together with the whipped cream, ginger ale, sugar/Splenda and lemon juice. Immediately put in your ice cream maker etc..

Mmm! I imagine for those who love ginger and can also eat sugar, candied ginger would be a nice addition to the recipe.

Monday, October 04, 2004

How thrilling! After only two years, the XMPP WG has produced RFCs.
  • RFC3920, Core protocol (framework for applications like notifications, as well as instant messaging and presence)

  • RFC3921, Instant messaging and presence over the core protocol

  • RFC3922, how to map XMPP presence information and instant messaging to the same common interchange format that SIMPLE instant messaging can map to

  • RFC3923, requirements for end-to-end security of instant messages even when routed over more than one protocol

The work began earlier than two years ago, of course. Jabber was designed while Jeremy Miller was waiting for the IETF to come up with a standard IM protocol (and taking too long). When the IETF process still appeared stalled, Jeremy and others proposed that the IETF could standardize Jabber, by creating a working group to design a revision to Jabber that met the IETF standards for internationalization, security, XML namespace usage and a few other things. A BOF meeting was held in July 2002, very eventful and entertaining as IETF meetings go. The WG was formed, and I was added as a co-chair to help Pete Resnick, on October 31 2002. Peter Saint-Andre authored *all* of our internet drafts, doing a huge amount of difficult work in an extremely timely, professional and skilled manner. Whew! It's been fun!

Thursday, September 30, 2004

Via Who Throws a Shoe, I learn that Mel Brooks has called Toronto's bagels "mushy". I can comment on this vital issue. Although I've never lived quite in Toronto, I've lived nearby and visit frequently. Also I've sampled Montreal bagels, New York bagels and many instances of second class bagels from around the continent.

You see, only Montreal and New York bagels are really the original ethnic bagel, made by Jewish people for Jewish communities with the same unadulterated ingredients (slightly different for these two cities, I believe) and quirky bagel-making techniques (including boiling the rings before baking in hot ovens, and who knows what other black magic). That may be because Montreal and New York have long had large communities dominated by Jewish culture, and the ability to affect bagel tastes throughout the rest of the city.

In the rest of Canada/US, bagels are poor imitations made with standard baking equipment and therefore with modified recipes. Donut stores that decide to add bagels to their menu often create pseudo-bagels that can be made with their existing equipment. The result is topologically the same as a bagel but otherwise sub-par -- a mainstream "bagel" is merely a bun with a hole. Even steaming equipment produces a milquetoast substitute. It's just not the same, but most North Americans don't know the difference or don't care. Perhaps some soft-gummed softheads even prefer the less chewy mainstream bagel.

So what's Toronto's story? It's mixed. Some parts of Toronto are like the rest of the wasteland outside Montreal and New York, as epitomized by the ever-present donut stores which make such great Canadian donuts (more on this another time) but such humdrum purported bagels. However, there is a strong Jewish community in some parts of Toronto (such as North York). So in these communities, if you know where to shop, you can find real boiled-and-baked bagels, real chewy and dense and shiny on the outside.

Mel, I'm sympathetic, but you should know better than to buy a bagel just anywhere.

Thursday, September 23, 2004

Another stab (like mine last spring) at why there seems to be a disproportionate fear for economics and economists: Arnold Kling puts forth a few possible reasons in his TCS article. He mentions the math barrier, but I still think that disliking the conclusions of economic thinking is one of the biggest reasons -- and can't be dealt with simply by teaching economics without math.

Monday, September 20, 2004

Another knitting project completed: a fuzzy baby cardigan.



Also see Ekr's post describing our weekend camping trip which was our toughest trip yet but I feel surprisingly good only a day later.

Tuesday, September 14, 2004

I can't resist exposing unintended consequences of well-meaning social programs. Here's a new one (to me) related to the minimum wage: by having a minimum wage, a state blocks entry to the workforce to certain very low-wage and entry-level workers, and this affects the stepping-stone process by which low-wage workers move up the chain to earn higher wages. In other words, a minimum wage hurts a state's rate of moderate wage employment later on. A great explanation at Marginal Revolution.

Friday, September 10, 2004

Open source and open standards

This is part two of a rumination on the trendy adjective "open", exploring why open source and open standards don't go together as well as one might think.

The phrase "open standard" is more loosely defined than "open source", although Bruce Perens is attempting another definition. Microsoft calls a protocol an open standard if the specification is publicly readable or if Microsoft allows or licenses others to legally implement it. However, Microsoft typically retains change control to its so-called open standards. Sun also maintains change control over its major standards and may not even have non-discriminatory licensing for implementations, but claims their standards are more open than Microsoft's because you can "check out" of the standard (ref). The war between Microsoft and Sun over who has more open standards is laughable.

I think these are the main criteria to judge how open a standard is:
  • Is published and available at low or zero cost
  • Can be implemented by anybody freely or with non-discriminatory licensing
  • Can be modified by a group with either completely open membership (IETF) or one that does not discriminate in membership applications (W3C).
  • Can be implemented interoperably on a wide variety of platforms and with a wide variety of technologies. (E.g. HTTP can be implemented in C, Java or most other languages, on Windows, Unix or just about any modern operating system.)
Anyway, for now let's call standards whose development is open to public contributions "public standards".

Why would an open source effort fail to support public standards, or fail to be interoperable? A lot of possible reasons here, many of which add up to either a high cost which open source developers can find difficult to bear, or lower benefit than a commercial product would gain from doing standards work.
  • It can be expensive to learn how to implement the standard. Books, workshops and seminars can help the developer learn the standard, or participation in a standards group which may require airfare or meeting fees to do effectively. Writing a from-scratch implementation of a public standard is not usually easy.

  • Developers may take shortcuts reading, understanding and implementing standards, trying to get something useful working fast rather than make the full investment. There may be certain features required by the standard but which aren't necessary for the product to work in the developer's main use cases. The shortcuts lead to less-interoperable implementations. Closed-source projects may take shortcuts too, but there are pressures to fix the holes quickly in order to claim compatibility, prove interoperability, and sell to customers.

  • Vanity, confidence, or ego: it's fun and impressive to design a protocol from scratch. An open source developer who is doing the whole project for fun may find the entertainment value more important than a paid developer.

  • Commercial products must have the credibility of being supported for the long run, and in planning for the long run, developers have other tradeoffs to make. For example, a protocol designed in-house for a specific purpose tends to have design errors which make it harder to maintain in the long run. There are a lot of subtle design points and extra effort involved in making a protocol extensible and flexible. Later on, continuing to support the protocol with newer versions of the software may come to be quite a pain. If they're wise and can afford to do so, developers of long-lived software make the decision to invest early in supporting a standard protocol rather than invent their own with unknown problems.

  • What if the developer can put in the effort to implement the public standard, but it's not quite ideal for the developer's purposes? It's possible for the developer to influence the public standard, but contributing to standards takes a long time and a lot of effort. If the existing standards don't quite match up to the requirements, an open source developer may not have the resources or time to help it change. Thus, the developer may choose to only partly implement the standard, or implement undocumented extensions, at a detriment to interoperability.

  • There's the assumption in open source that because you can read the source, the source is the specification. Why should an open source developer take the time to publish a specification for the protocol when you can just read the source to see how it works? So therefore when open source developers do extend or invent a protocol, the resulting protocol often remains undocumented, which isn't conducive to interoperability.

  • Interoperability testing can be expensive. It might require revenues of some kind to be able to afford interoperability testing. And if you can't even afford interoperability testing, it's harder to justify implementing the interoperable standard.
Although it seems a little rude because Subethaedit is a wonderful tool, I'll pick on Subethaedit for a minute. It's free, it's open source, it has a relatively open process, and it even supports some public standards. It uses Rendezvous (an Apple preview of Zeroconf, which is a public standard in development) and BEEP (an IETF public standard). However there is also a non-public protocol used over BEEP to communicate around the actual changes to the communally edited document. Thus, it would be a challenge for somebody to write another client that interoperated with Subethaedit.

Sadly, many open source projects (as well as many closed source) use the phrase "supports open standards" or "based on open standards" as if it were pixie dust, automatically conferring open interoperability. That's not the case. An open source project can easily fail to be interoperable with other projects, just by innovating new features without rigorously documenting and designing protocols and protocol extensions.

Some open source projects overcome all these hurdles and support public standards, which I, personally, am very grateful for. Once in a while open source developers actually design a new protocol which is interoperable, flexible and unique enough to become a widely supported public standard, and that too deserves kudos.

Tuesday, September 07, 2004

Open as in source, or Open as in process?

A long-standing terminology issue in free software is whether it's "free as in speech, or free as in beer" (ref). A related confusion arises with the adjective "open". The term "Open Source" is most authoritatively defined by the Open Source Initiative. Other phrases like Open Standard and openness (as a way of operating an organization) are more loosely used. With efforts like Open Content and Open Law (not to mention OpenCola), openness is clearly in vogue now.

These "opens" don't always go together, despite common assumptions. There's an automatic assumption that these are all meritorious and that anybody with the merit of doing open source software also has the merits of following open standards and an open process.

Open source and open process

Since "openness" is too vague, I'll take a stab instead at considering "open process". The phrase is relative: a more open process is one which is more transparent, less restricted in participation, and less obscure. For example anybody may search the Mozilla bug database and see bug status (transparent) and anybody may submit a bug (unrestricted participation). In addition the bug database is easy to find and there are instructions for use (not obscure).

Why would an open source effort fail to have an open process? Simple -- a process has a cost that must offset its benefits, and an open process can have a higher cost than a closed process. A small group of programmers (one to three, maybe four) don't get much benefit from formal processes, let alone formally open processes. The way to contribute to an open source project, or how submissions get accepted, or what feature get added, may happen in a very opaque way; decisions may be made by one person or made in private conversations among a small group.

Contrast that to a company where there are very likely to be customer requests and some standard process to handle them. The process may very likely be closed and private, but it's also quite possible for a company to have an open process to discuss feature inclusion. For example, at Xythos, we started a customer forum where customers could get together and discuss the merits of various feature requests. The final decision was up to us but the process was not entirely closed. Some open source projects don't even have a forum for discussing feature requests, or a public list of feature requests.

Of course, open source efforts are probably more likely overall to have open processes. Sites like Sourceforge contribute to this synergy by opening up bug tracking and discussion forums in a cheap way -- open source contributors don't have to make a huge investment to make the development process more open as well.

At OSAF we put a lot of effort into ensuring that our processes are transparent, participatory, and not obscure. It's been estimated that one part of that alone, the weekly IRC chats, consumes nearly one morning per developer per week -- that's enormous. Documenting everything we say in in-person meetings and keeping public Wiki pages up to date are other major costs. Obviously we hope that doing the "openness" thing confers benefits in the long run to the larger community, but at such a high cost, it's obviously not a cost every open source group can bear.

Part II of this post, discussing the weaker synergy between open source and open standards, will come this weekend I hope.

The CalSch Working Group is being closed. I believe this is a good thing -- IETF working groups which stick around for years and years tend to shrink and get dysfunctional. Closing the group clears the slate.

This doesn't mean that no standards work is going to get done in calendaring. In fact, it seems quite the opposite since in the past six months there's been quite a surge of interest in calendaring features and calendar interoperability. The new lists I mentioned in a previous post have seen a fair bit of traffic. The access protocol discussion list (ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org )has 96 members and 72 posts in under a month. The other list discussing bringing the calendar format standards to a new level of RFC (ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org), has 85 members and 154 posts in the same time period. I've talked to a number of different companies, organizations and even venture capitalists about calendaring standards action, and there's an interesting roundtable coming up in Montreal.

Since I have been dragging people into discussing calendaring standards for a year now, and published a calendaring standard proposal eight months ago, I feel like my timing, for once, is right. Maybe I'm one of the butterflies furiously flapping my wings to create a bit of wind-speed out there today.

Tuesday, August 31, 2004

I read Scott Rosenberg's post today about extraordinary attempts to avoid appearance of journalistic bias, then got to discuss it with him today too. I noted that the problem seems to be a bit worse in the US. In Canada and the UK, I think newspapers may be a little happier to be known to have a bias. Not the Globe and Mail, perhaps, which takes a high-horse approach to politics and society despite clearly having biases at times, but at least the Sun. And in the UK I've heard papers are more likely to take sides and I know the Economist sometimes bluntly admits its bias. In the US, it seems, papers go to greater lengths (including forbidding attendance at benefit concerts) to avoid being seen as a mouthpiece for either the Democrats or the Replublicans.

One theory for the extra attempts to appear neutral: since there's only two real US parties, any admitted bias is tantamount to admitting that the paper favours one of them. In Canada politics may not be quite so partisan or polarized, or at least haven't been for so long. A Canadian paper with a slight conservative bent could be a PC mouthpiece, or a Reform mouthpiece, or neither, so at least there's confusion about which party it's supposed to be the mouthpiece for. But I'm not sure this theory holds up because certainly Canadian politics can be partisan (and nasty), and UK politics may be polarized much like American.

Another theory is that since Americans are generally so quick to come up with conspiracy theories, Americans are therefore quick to assume that politicians are somehow controlling journalistic output. Therefore a paper must appear especially untainted to avoid being written off as government-controlled propaganda.

I'm not terribly happy with either of these theories, and maybe I'm wrong that this is uniquely American, so feel free to chime in.

Monday, August 23, 2004

Wikis suck for specs

At OSAF, unfortunately, we don't have very good specs. We have great designs, but it's really hard to go from the designs to know what exactly works and doesn't work, what's implemented and what isn't, and how the non-GUI choices were made, at any given release. It's hard for a developer to pick a feature and see how to implement it, because the developer could either see too much (the wiki pages or fragments that show the bigger context for the design, the aspects of the feature that we can't do today) or too little (the wiki pages or fragments that seemed irrelevant but were vital). Part of the problem may be that we didn't have anybody on staff whose job it was to write specifications, like program managers at Microsoft do. But part of the problem is certainly tools.

OSAF uses a Wiki for most of our current documentation, from proposals to user documentation to meeting notes to personal jottings. The wiki is very fluid and chaotic and not very authoritative. It seems a wiki can be made to be more authoritative -- the wikipedia does this by formalizing around a single kind of content -- but we can't easily do that because our wiki already contains such divergent content. Besides, a wiki isn't an ideal environment for long documents, for printing, for version control, or for template usage.

Length: Specs are ideally longer than the average wiki page. To fully describe a feature so that the different contributors actually agree (rather than just appear to agree), to document the decisions made, and to make the feature testable and documentable, might require a 30 page specification for a 1-dev-month feature. Note that for a long document readers require a table of contents -- ideally clickable if you're reading it on a computer, with page numbering if it's printed.

Printing: You really want to be able to print specs, even today. I'm tempted to bring printed specs to a meeting and ban laptops to get them reviewed properly. Reviewers can mark up paper. Implementors can glance between paper and screen (and write on the paper) as they work.

Version control: Specs should be versioned and checked in and out and maintained in a versioned repository, just like code. Some wiki software does this but it's not very good yet -- I couldn't view a version of this page from before the picture was added. HTML doesn't version very well in general partly because images are external. And if you break wiki pages into smaller-than-30-page chunks for readability, then the versioning gets worse.

Templates: For template support, I miss Word. When I worked at Microsoft, there were Word wizards who made beautiful, useful templates for many purposes, from expense reports to specifications. As a program manager, I wrote many specifications, and I found that a template somewhat like this one kick-started the process. Word also allows templates to contain "click to fill in" fields (like author, product, release, team information; spec status, implementation status) including support for drop-down boxes to limit selection to a few appropriate choices. My favourite spec template had sections for overview, administrative UI, setup concerns, test considerations, rough documentation plan, and internationalization issues. Each of these sections was a reminder that the feature being specified might have impact on other groups. When I joined a group that didn't have a template I made or modified one to start with because I found them so useful. The IETF has specification templates and they make for some consistency between vastly different protocols and authors. A familiar template vastly improves readability.

Am I missing something that would solve this problem in HTML or in another open format? Is there some easy-to-use tool or set of tools to solve this problem? I know I could write my own software to do this, and it wouldn't even have to be terribly complex -- no worse than the XML2RFC tool which produces IETF specifications matching the template. But that's harder both to write the template (and software to generate the document) and for the author who has to get the angly brackets right.

[Tangentially related: According to Mark's amusing post, as a spec reader, I'm a moron. I don't understand a spec merely by reading it through. After I've implemented a spec or tried to explain it to somebody else, or extend it or edit it, I begin to understand it.]

[UPDATE: Ekr and Sheila point out that a Wiki also sucks for entering text. It's not WYSIWYG, so the process of updating and viewing and correcting pages can be slow. Also you've got to be online to change a page. There's no way to synchronize parts of the Wiki for offline changes other than manual painful silliness. Ekr objected to the whole comparison in the first place. He said that evaluating a Wiki for writing specs was like evaluating a bunsen burner for baking bread.]

Friday, August 20, 2004

When I lived in Seattle I volunteered with a group that ran conferences for middle and high-school girls to learn about careers. The conferences were arranged so that each girl could pick a slate of careers (3 or 4 ) and go to workshops where there was supposed to be hands-on practice. For a lot of careers -- vet, doctor -- it's easy to bring in actual real tools and let the girls use them, so those make for easy workshops. It's not so easy for the software industry, however, as I learned when I tried to increase the participation from women at my company.

The obvious approach to teaching girls what it might be like to be a developer is to put them at a computer and show them code. Unfortunately that requires having access to a computer lab at the conference location and setting up all those computers with the same tools. I only saw this done once -- Shaula Massena ran a brilliant workshop where girls used Visual Basic to construct a little prank program they could install on Dad or Mom's PC at home. The program simly popped up a dialog saying click here to dismiss, only when you click "here" the dialog jumped somewhere else on the screen :) Shaula sent the girls home with floppies containing their program executable, very cool.

I eventually helped program managers, testers and tech writers come up with workshop plans that didn't require a computer lab and software installation. For testers, we brought some home appliances in -- mixer, hair dryer, toaster -- explained how to write a test plan, and asked the girls to execute the test plan. They explored edge cases like "what happens when you press the toast button when you're already toasting". The girls also always had fun criticizing the design and usability of the devices, which we encouraged.

For tech writers, the workshop involve writing instructions and then watch somebody follow those instructions to see how challenging it is to write clear instructions. I brought a pile of coloured paper and asked each girl to make a paper airplane (or other origami thing) and then on another piece of paper explain how to make the same airplane. Then the girls exchanged instructions and tried to follow somebody else's instructions. At the end we compared results between the original and the one made by following instructions. Here, fun was had throwing planes and decorating and naming them as well as constructing them. Some girls decorated their instructions pages too -- budding Web designers.

Finally, for program/product managers, my favourite workshop was "Design your own cell phone". I focused the discussion of features by introducing the concept of a target audience and a limited budget. What features are so important for your target audience that you just have to have them? The girls split into teams and came up with lovely ideas. Often, of course, the target audience was "teenage girls" and one group came up with a "privacy phone" that would stop your bratty brother from hearing any of your conversations or messages. But one group targetted old people and thought what it would take to handle a user with poor eyesight and hearing. And another group targeted young kids (or really, concerned parents of young kids) and designed a brightly-coloured egg-shaped phone, wearable on a lanyard around the neck, with only three programmed "send call" buttons so that the kid could only call appropriate authority figures to arrange pick up time, report an emergency, and so on. The girls thought that the phone should also have toy-like features so that the kid would have something to play with besides calling Mom, Dad and Emergency, so they thought there could be a couple more buttons to play ringtones or record and playback thoughts.

For six years I've thought that the kidphone would in fact make a cool product. Finally I find validation via Gizmodo: the MYMO phone for kids. I should have hired that team of girls and founded a company.

Sunday, August 15, 2004

Everybody is knitting ponchos this summer, so I had to as well.

Wednesday, August 11, 2004

If this background material is familiar to you, scroll to the bottom for the call to arms.

I've been following calendaring standards for six years now. In that time, iCalendar has become a fairly widely accepted standard for expressing events, todos and other calendar information in a MIME text document. Many calendaring applications can import iCalendar files, or export to them, or generate an email with an invitation formatted as an iCalendar document. However, there are some problems with iCalendar's complexity, particularly in expressing recurrances, and the companion standards for conveying iCalendar files (iMIP and iTIP) have their own problems.

Calendar interoperability testing has happened sporadically in these years. The first calendar interoperability event was held in 2000, a virtual event in 2002 and another in-person event this summer at Berkeley, organized by the newly revitalized CalConnect consortium. Still, interoperability hasn't improved as much as we'd like because at some point you need to go back and fix the standard.

Also during these six years, the CalSch working group has worked and bickered over the proposal to standardize how clients access a calendar stored on a server -- this protocol, CAP, would be to calendars what IMAP is to email folders. I've never liked the design of CAP, down to the very core model of how it works. So six months ago I made a counter-proposal, CalDAV, and threw it out there as an internet-draft. Finally I'm getting more than just nibbles on CalDAV, in fact several groups have told me their intent to implement CalDAV starting this year. And at the same time, other folks are getting invigorated about revising iCalendar and bringing it to draft standard.

This is all great news. Calendaring interoperability has languished except for that burst of productivity back in 1998. People are locked into one calendar application depending on what server technology they have available, since there's no common calendar access standard. Invitations work, kinda, but in practice the problems with recurrances mean that people must follow up the machine-readable text with human-readable text in case a mistake was made between two different vendors' software.

Good news, but nowhere near done yet -- this is just the beginning. Now we need volunteers. We need people to write specification text, review text, and manage the issues. We need people simply to pay attention to the work being done and provide their experience, or simply opinions, to bring issues to resolution.

Here's where to start -- two new mailing lists, one to take iCalendar to draft standard, one to develop and standardize CalDAV. Tell your friends! Subscribe to one, subscribe to both! We've got good work to do and good people to do it but we need your help.

Monday, August 09, 2004

Tim Bray, a veteran of many other Internet/engineering communities, is a newcomer to the IETF, and was slightly disturbed by some of what he saw. With open mind, he attended IETF meetings, both a few official in-person meetings and the meeting Saint Peter calls the "undernet" of the plenary, the badattitude jabber room (named after a tradition of corporate criticism).

Like Saint Peter, I'm not concerned about what Tim Bray calls the "severe angst" that appeared in badattitude. I think when you invite a group of people together to complain and rant, they do so, attempting to be humorous and entertain each other, at the expense of reflecting the entire reality and balance of their opinions. In fact, several of us have noticed that ever since badattitude started existing during IETF plenaries, there's much fewer dissent voiced at the microphone. Badattitude only has about 60 people and there can be 600 in the actual plenary room so it's hard to believe that allowing 10% of the people to let off steam can directly reduce the microphone usage by a noticeable amount (clearly more than 10%). Theories include:
  • Uncorrelated -- people stopped complaining during open-microphone for other reasons.
  • Tipping point -- the few people whose frustration was reduced through badattitude, and didn't go to the microphone, brought microphone usage below some tipping point, influencing others not to complain as well.
  • The Squawker Squad -- the possibility that the people I know happen to be those most likely to complain, and by drawing them into badattitude I induced a significant percentage of the bellyachers to give their opinions elsewhere.
The first theory is the most likely but I prefer the last (/me grins).

I was supposed to have a full transcript of the badattitude jabber room due to the automatic logging functionality of the jabber client, but nitro ate the chat log. Really -- it's gone, except for the first five minutes. Honest. Anyway, some folks logged in under their real names and might not like it published.

Friday, August 06, 2004

WebDAV and Wiki get compared frequently. They're often in frameworks that solve the same problem, but they play different roles within those frameworks.

A Wiki is a Web site running Web application code that allows people to browse Web pages, easily add new Web pages, and easily edit any Web page through Web forms (the Web application code powers those Web forms and handles their input). Originally Wiki described the first such application but the word has spread and similar applications that run completely different code are also called Wikis.

WebDAV is an IETF Proposed Standard, RFC2518, describing a set of extensions to the HTTP protocol. These extensions allow a client application (or other software agent) to create new HTTP resources more easily, manage them, find them without following hyperlinks, and change them in a way that multiple authors can work together simultaneously.




























Wiki uses HTTP forms to transport requests WebDAV extends HTTP by defining new methods.
Wiki is a UI. WebDAV is completely orthogonal to a UI.
There exist a number of different Wikis, implemented in different languages, supporting different features. There are a lot of different WebDAV servers as well as WebDAV clients. The clients can theoretically all work against any server although in practice there are a few outliers (special purpose clients or servers) that don't interoperate so well with the main group.
Wiki is a thin-client application, where any browser can be the client because the smarts are on the server (the code running the Web forms). WebDAV was created to allow rich clients to author Web resources. A WebDAV client is definitely the entity in control -- but you have to download or find WebDAV client software. Luckily, these clients ship now in all Windows and Mac OS's.
Wiki is a generic name that seems to be used if something is similar to original Wiki WebDAV is a set of requirements, so a WebDAV implementation can be tested for compliance.
You'd probably not call something a Wiki, if it didn't enable multiple users and allow easy creation of new pages, and result in a Web site collection of human readable pages. WebDAV can be used to do synchronize with a source code repository, or to change configuration files, or to access a calendar server, or many more things that you would never call "shared authoring".
It's easy to extend (a) Wiki, just code in the new feature -- e.g. search. It's hard to extend the WebDAV standard, it requires IETF drafts, reviews, and many revisions in the IETF doc format. It can take years -- e.g. SEARCH, begun around 1998. OTOH it's easy to extend a WebDAV server -- e.g. Xythos added anonymous permission tickets to the WFS server -- but no other clients are likely to interoperate with a custom feature like this for a while.


Anyway, in this case, the different roles mean that Wiki and WebDAV are not at all incompatible, and to compare their advantages and disadvantages as if they are both apples can be misleading. Brad, whom I met at a party last week, realizes this: he added WebDAV support to an existing Wiki codebase. It allows another way to add pages to a Wiki or to modify them, and can interact completely smoothly with the existing WebUI. You'd think somebody would have done this before now, but I can't see that anybody has. Way to go Brad.

[UPDATE Aug 9: clarified "extend webdav" to differentiate between extending the standard, and extending a server]

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